Last night saw ever more ominous Nottingham Forest leapfrog Leeds as they accelerated towards the automatic places, still with at least a game in hand on the top six, and two in hand on us and Swansea. They climbed to fifth after beating Bristol City 1-0 on Tuesday night with a deflected shot from defender Luke Chambers.
Davies spent most of the early part of the season putting poor performances down to lack of "ambition", complaining at his board and at not having money to spend, despite possessing a strong squad that he led to a Play-Off semi-final defeat the season before - the club, for example, having spent sums such as £2.65M on Robert Earnshaw, who's scored only four this season and failed to consistently and completely justify that price tag since joining in 2008 - and has forced Davies into further striking reinforcements this season. In the summer of 2009 he spent £4M - Chris Gunter was £1.75M from Spurs that summer... Several of his current squad are on reportedly high wages: Earnshaw, Guy Moussi and Nathan Tyson as well as defender Kelvin Wilson. All are out of contract in the Summer. Forest's spending since their Championship return during 08 and 09 has forced them to cut back, signing no permanent deals in January or the previous summer, and having to offer reduced terms to the above in a last effort to keep them. Forest players asked to take wage cuts.
One former colleague said of Davies:
This is a man who "wants to manage the world XI, and yesterday".
His targets (in January first, then latterly some of them again in the summer) were Nicky Shorey from Aston Villa, Victor Moses of Crystal Palace, Swansea City midfielder Darren Pratley and Gareth Bale who was at the time a Spurs reserve team player. Clearly, these are all ambitious signings for a Championship side, especially one that had already spent big in the past few seasons and are currently needing a little more control.
Moses was chased by Premier League clubs, Pratley - Swansea's key player with over a year on his contract at the time, Shorey on massive wages and clearly Bale was optimistic as Harry Redknapp likely knew what he had to offer in the near future. He also targeted Peter Whittingham, Cardiff's top scoring midfielder from the previous season and probably their most prized asset along with Jay Bothroyd - thus no doubt commanding a massive fee if Cardiff were to sell him.
Moses was chased by Premier League clubs, Pratley - Swansea's key player with over a year on his contract at the time, Shorey on massive wages and clearly Bale was optimistic as Harry Redknapp likely knew what he had to offer in the near future. He also targeted Peter Whittingham, Cardiff's top scoring midfielder from the previous season and probably their most prized asset along with Jay Bothroyd - thus no doubt commanding a massive fee if Cardiff were to sell him.
Clearly, Davies' above demands were unrealistic to expect from a Championship board, particularly after spending around £7M in transfer fees alone combining Calderwood's and latterly his efforts in the windows in 2008 and 2009 (this without parachute payments of course, as Boro had for this summer's £8M spree). He seems to want to "have his cake and eat it" and in the modern game, which is hemorrhaging money from clubs bidding to get into the "big time" fast, this can be very dangerous (read Cardiff's financial issues with Ridsdale and their Summer's takeover and also QPR - who lost £19M in 2009's financial year).
He claimed: "Other teams are spending (in reference to the 2010 summer window), you can see their intentions. Now we want to see this club show their intentions."
If he and the club had spent more wisely in the past, perhaps he would have been able to bring players in and may have been able to keep hold of James Perch, whose move sparked his fury as he was sold before he was told, and before a direct replacement for him had been brought in. They have a remarkably generous Chairman who's funded a lot of spending from his own pocket, and only the past year has he tightened the purse strings. Forest Chairman Doughty's Spending 2008 which details him having put £45M of his own money into the club - and no doubt a lot more in the two years since. Most recently, Davies was allowed to table a bid for Millwall's Steve Morison that totaled £2M. This kind of spending, particularly for Leeds fans of the post administration era of realism, sounds completely alien, and I'm glad. Our club is more financially sound and self sustaining. Spending such fees on Championship standard players seems absurd when you can compete well by spending a fraction of the amount, although Davies completely lacks this portion managerial nous, despite his high regard for his own abilities.
Davies is a manager with a massive ego and sense of self worth, claiming to be Preston's all time most successful manager and he riled Leeds fans by posting "Job Done" on a wall at Deepdale after they managed a 1-1 draw at Elland Road in the Play Off final first leg. They'd gone 568 minutes at Deepdale without conceding but Leeds to inspiration from Davies' cocky and premature comments and managed to put two past them without reply, going through 3-1 on aggregate to an ultimately ill fated final.
All is far more quiet though now on the Davies front as his Nottingham Forest side have won seven of their last eight games and are romping their way to promotion it seems. He's recently been able to reinforce upfront with Marcus Tudgay on the relative cheap (£400k), who was unhappy and becoming ineffectual in League One with Sheffield Wednesday - but has been previously capable and effective in this division. He clearly has a strong squad, but despite their massive marquee spending on strikers such as Dexter Blackstock (who was admittedly unluckily injured long-term in late November) for a seven figure fee in 2009, Earnshaw for that £2.65M in 2008 they aren't firing up front this season - with mainstay academy midfielder McGugan top scorer on 11.
On current trends, Forest should fly to automatic promotion and I think they're odds on to finish in the top two, maybe with the addition of a face or two in the remainder of January. The money spent hasn't always been spent wisely, but success is coming and seemingly the risk is bringing reward - if they do indeed manage to make a top division return. I just hope we don't make it easy for Davies and his promotion hopefuls at Elland Road when we come to face them later this season.
In no way am I envious though. I don't want to spend £1.75M on Chris Gunter, or the extraordinary money they have on Robert Earnshaw. That's unjustifiable at this level for most, even for a team of Leeds' and Forest's relative power. Shrewd business appeals to me more and more. Becchio highlights Forest's gluttony at Earnshaw's purchase (despite being different players in style, goals speak for themselves), Snoddy makes £1M for Majewski look excessive... the measured approach suits football at this level. Even Warnock has cut back at what probably is the world's richest club based on Mittal's fortune, QPR. He's top of the league after adding clever loans and frees, much improved on last season's effort (although admittedly he inherited a lot of quality in the squad that was bought for a fair bit of money). Success doesn't need to be an unending stream of million pound transfers. Success can be achieved with moderation.
As any fan though, I would welcome the odd flaunting of cash - but not as often as other sides do, and not on players that wouldn't either be capable of either dramatically and consistently improving the squad and justifying their fee, or on those incapable of stepping up - as Earnshaw showed at Derby. The kind of player worth spending an amount on is Adel Taarabt (who at £1M looks a cracking bargain) who can clearly go on to play at the next level - and is someone who would perform and improve any squad in this division - as his goals and assists have shown for QPR throughout this season in particular, since his permanent move from Spurs, as well as throughout last season.
I'm far from saying I'm against Leeds going out and showing the money. What I'm saying is that I don't want to see us show it so often, and on players that have commanded such high amounts in transfer fees, when consistent performance and ability to step to a higher level is lacking. Value for money is more important than amount spent, especially if the whole squad is to be perpetually improved - as is necessary in football: "If you aren't moving forward, you're falling back."
As any fan though, I would welcome the odd flaunting of cash - but not as often as other sides do, and not on players that wouldn't either be capable of either dramatically and consistently improving the squad and justifying their fee, or on those incapable of stepping up - as Earnshaw showed at Derby. The kind of player worth spending an amount on is Adel Taarabt (who at £1M looks a cracking bargain) who can clearly go on to play at the next level - and is someone who would perform and improve any squad in this division - as his goals and assists have shown for QPR throughout this season in particular, since his permanent move from Spurs, as well as throughout last season.
I'm far from saying I'm against Leeds going out and showing the money. What I'm saying is that I don't want to see us show it so often, and on players that have commanded such high amounts in transfer fees, when consistent performance and ability to step to a higher level is lacking. Value for money is more important than amount spent, especially if the whole squad is to be perpetually improved - as is necessary in football: "If you aren't moving forward, you're falling back."
Realistically, having spent three seasons in League One and not having a benefactor as Forest clearly do, we can't expect to be spending like its going out of fashion and, in the end, plunging millions in, when quality and results are available at much less cost as we've proved with the players mentioned above... Gradel too. Blackpool have shown this recently (with groundwork laid by Simon Grayson who spent as wisely there as he tries to here), as well as Swansea, Norwich and Watford this season - all vying for either playoff places or automatic promotion on modest budgets. You don't need to spend such amounts to succeed at this level - hence why I'd see it as a waste - Forest haven't yet seen the results but now it is coming together for them but there's nothing to say for definite that if you spend you succeed, hence the risk. It depends on players bought and managerial ability, but admittedly eventually with enough money spent, success becomes more and more likely - but not inevitable.
Its spending in fact that has led to Forest struggling financially with significant financial losses:
"We are, after all, talking about a man who is willing to run the football club at a loss of £5m to, as revealed today, £13.4m a season – that he personally finances."
"Were he to walk away, the landscape would be bleak on the south side of the Trent.
Without his level of financial backing, Forest would not be bidding for players such as Darren Pratley or Peter Whittingham in the first place, whether their efforts were successful or not."
Paul Taylor: Forest would be lost without Doughty, but they need their fans too
Forest's Debt to Doughty
60M Owed to Doughty
Were the benefactor to suffer financial issues with his interests outside of the club, the club would therefore be at risk. It's a dangerous method of running a football club - especially one that isn't immediately as attractive as a Chelsea or City were to their billionaire benefactors, for whatever reason. We've had a "fan" (I use that term loosely) in Ridsdale throw the money around and personally, I wouldn't want to see it again. Although Forest are showing success can be achieved this way, I'd much rather our club take it more patiently and within our means. It is paramount we never again get into a situation of unsustainable debt that's haunted us in our recent past.
Gambling is far too dangerous - of all the teams in the Football League, we should know this.
Its spending in fact that has led to Forest struggling financially with significant financial losses:
"We are, after all, talking about a man who is willing to run the football club at a loss of £5m to, as revealed today, £13.4m a season – that he personally finances."
"Were he to walk away, the landscape would be bleak on the south side of the Trent.
Without his level of financial backing, Forest would not be bidding for players such as Darren Pratley or Peter Whittingham in the first place, whether their efforts were successful or not."
Paul Taylor: Forest would be lost without Doughty, but they need their fans too
Forest's Debt to Doughty
60M Owed to Doughty
Were the benefactor to suffer financial issues with his interests outside of the club, the club would therefore be at risk. It's a dangerous method of running a football club - especially one that isn't immediately as attractive as a Chelsea or City were to their billionaire benefactors, for whatever reason. We've had a "fan" (I use that term loosely) in Ridsdale throw the money around and personally, I wouldn't want to see it again. Although Forest are showing success can be achieved this way, I'd much rather our club take it more patiently and within our means. It is paramount we never again get into a situation of unsustainable debt that's haunted us in our recent past.
Gambling is far too dangerous - of all the teams in the Football League, we should know this.


32 Comments:
Davies - sums up the accuracy of this article in relation to Forest.
Why wouldn't you pay £1.75m for Gunter? He's easily worth at least double that now. Is it just because he got into a shoving match with one of your lot earlier in the season? Oh, and Earnshaw has been our top scorer in the past 2 seasons so I'm not entirely sure why you think £2.65m is excessive. Anyway, if we're dead certs for auto this year then why are you questioning the way we've gone about our business in the transfer market? Is it just sour grapes?
It's always dangerous to have a little knowledge I think. You know, those people who think they know EVERYTHING but only really know a tiny slither. This is MUCH worse than people who just know nothing. At least they don't start blogs making radical statements...
Most of the above facts are wrong - well those concerning Forest anyway. I wouldn't assume to know about Leeds. Also, isn't this a bizarrely bitter article.
We've only got one player on high wages and that's Earnshaw. And we are attempting to bring that down as we speak. Moreover, he's not been a waste of money as you suggest here. His goals kept us in the league the first season we came up and last season he was great. This season he's had a succession of injuries and is just finding some form. Ask any Forest fan and they'll agree. Agreed, he's not banging the goals in in endlessly but when you've got the best defence in the league you only need the odd one.
It's rumour that we offered 2million for Morison. And we WANTED to sell Perch, he couldn't even get in our starting 11 and Newcastle offered in excess of a million for him. Of course we sold him, it's like accusing the Leeds board of being foolish for selling Seth Johnson to Derby.
It's a shame that you're superimposing 'facts' and blurring the line of opinion and reality, as some of the things you say have some vague relevance to us and the article is decently written.
I think if you can't even spell the manager's name correctly - it's DaviEs -(and Millwall's Morison) you're sort of undermining yourself. But yes, Snodgrass is good - and yes, better than Majewski. I can agree on that. I'd much rather have a fit Earnshaw than Becchio though and by a distance. I can guarantee he'll produce the goods all the way to the finish line.
4/10 - see me after class. Good luck for the rest of the season though.
P.S. I hope you can get that chip off your shoulder and read around a subject before making random statements that you clearly don't know enough about.
The dangers of the internet eh?
Firstly regards contracts, several sources suggested you were negotiating lower paid contracts to the players I mentioned. Hence why negotiations are probably still ongoing.
Regards Perch
Davies told BBC East Midlands Today: "I got a call after the deal was done to tell me James was leaving.
"I was disappointed but that is why the acquisitions panel is here. They decide who comes, who goes and when."
Davies wasn't happy as he went without having a replacement lined up is what I took from that. Otherwise there would have been no complaint. He may not necessarily have wanted to sell, if replacement couldnt be found.
2.65M is extortionate for a Championship level striker. Yakubu, loan, Becchio sub 200k, Somma free (will get 15+ goals) Gradel, 200k 10 goals etc. You've paid a lot of money - and yes they are good quality but what I'm saying is you don't have to do it that way - the way Davies is doing.
Yes im biased, as is any football supporter writing a blog aimed at their fans, and yes I dislike Billy so its bound to have views according to my prejudices. I'm not writing for The Times or anything, its opinion.
For the second comment, I'm questioning the way you go about your business as it isn't sustainable at this level, by a long shot. As this article shows
http://www.thisisnottingham.co.uk/news/Nottingham-Forest-lost-Nigel-Doughty-need-fans/article-2615880-detail/article.html
Well said Jos!
who ever wrote this article clearly hadn't done there research.
Nice of you to give us so much attention, but this is one of the most false articles I have ever read - stick to blogging on your own club, where you may get a larger percentage of facts correct.
"I'm questioning the way you go about your business as it isn't sustainable at this level"
Well we're odds on to go up according to you so we won't have to worry about that for much longer will we? Seriously, I can't believe a Leeds fan is having a pop at another club's finances. This is hypocrisy of the highest order.
Saying I haven't done my research is wrong -
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Nottingham-Forest-ask-stars-Rob-Earnshaw-Guy-Moussi-and-Nathan-Tyson-to-take-wage-cuts-for-new-contracts-Exclusive-article661013.html
Is what I saw along with other sources saying you're struggling to retain those players due to unaffordable (at the present time) wages.
The BBC quote in the comment above was where I got the Perch bit from
It is opinion based, I'm writing as a Leeds fan, not a Forest fan - so its bound not to appeal to you 100%
In the past hypocracy yes of course. But look at our current policy under Bates, since the era of realism began during our time in league one. Its sensible.
Yes, you are seeing the benefits now and good luck to you, but I am saying that the gamble is not forced to always come off.
What facts have I got completely wrong by the way as you keep telling me so I can correct them. Im being told they're wrong but not being told which are wrong.
Surely this provides evidence that we're tightening our belts and not looking to p*ss money away willy-nilly? What exactly is your point again? Is it that Leeds are good and that all other teams are sh*t and cheats for having more money to spend in the transfer market?
I said "seemingly the risk is bringing the reward" they key is, I wouldn't want to risk in the way Forest have done - albeit with a benefactor - what's to say one of his business wouldn't take a dive and he became unable to support the club to the extent he is doing? Especially true in the past few years' economic climate.
Well yes there's a bit of moderation coming as past spending has dictated this is necessary for you, but you've still apparently tabled a 2M bid for Morison, good player yes, but there are better for less/loan.
Ill say it again. It is a Leeds blog, for Leeds fans - it is my take on lower league football and gambling on going up by spending in such amounts - yes you have a benefactor as ive said but read the above comment regards that. And I state my take in the article - that I prefer that WE/Leeds do it the way we have been doing and Grayson has already done at Blackpool - quality at unquestionable value.
The other teams aren't cheats they can do what they want, being a Leeds fan I've seen it fail crushingly and hence don't want to revert to that mentality of pushing on.
Doughty learnt the lesson you're banging on about 10 years ago with Platt. Forest have pretty much been in decline since that episode. Only with the arrival of Davies have things started to look up again. We haven't had a permanent left back for years - is this the trait of a team that throws money at a problem?
perhaps then, instead of spending such large amounts on players that surely haven't been 100% consistent since you've bought them, you may have been able to shift money toward buying a left back and use the money more wisely?
Who says I'm a forest fan???? I didnt, you should look at your own club before posting utter garbage about someone else's club, fine you dont like billy davies. stop crying about it and get over it.
Ill repeat its opinion, its target audience is Leeds fans.
What portions are garbage (no one has got back to me on what facts were apparently ill researched/rubbish by the way).
My word aren't these Forest fans touchy?
I'll not mention the fact that they only got automatic promotion because of our -15. Their points tally wouldn't, if I recall correctly, have got them up automatically in virtually any other season.
You'd think they'd be grateful for our profligacy, but it seems not ;)
Forest are the opposite of us. Tight at the back, short of excitement up front. Good luck to them if they go up, and I mean that sincerely, but chill a bit eh?
The number of people who have written about our club with ignorance makes this look like a dot. Just get on with it. It's an opinion. It's not a knife attack on your virtue.
I note that his sources aren't referred to by his critics. I wonder why?
Complete nonsence. Nearly all your facts are nothing more than paper talk - clearly you believe everything you read in the likes of the Mirror.
As Jos states, Earnshaw is our only player on high wages (around £15k pw), the rest are mostly on no more than £5k pw). Compare this to someone like Savage on £30k pw.
Earnshaw's goals kept us in the Championship and have propelled us to a promotion chasing side attracting better quality players, so imo the hefty fee was entirely justified, as was the fee for Gunter, again this is only my opinion, but the best full back outside the PL. Amongst the odd big price tags there have also been some very shrewd deals for the likes of Camp in particular, Blackstock and Anderson, not to mention Moussi and McKenna.
Doughty is a shrewd businessman and has learned his lesson after Platt, hence the reason for the Acquistions Panel, so do not worry about our finances.
You mention our strikers not firing this season, well this maybe true, however they have been disrupted with injuries to Blackstock, Earnshaw and McGoldrick, so they are just settling back into the team. We have made it up to 5th so I would be worrying about when they do hit form!
With regards some of your other ''facts'' - I know for certain that Davies knew about Perch, sure he wanted to keep as many players together as possible, but his comments to the press were about him putting pressure on the board to find a replacement. The money that we were offered for a squad player was way too good to turn down. Do you believe everything the likes of Fergie and Wenger tell the press, or do they manipulate situations to get their own way?
If you knew your facts you would know that Tyson hasn't been offered a new contract yet, so its nonsence that he has been asked to take a cut. He is playing to get it renewed and given his current form this will happen soon, but Davies is probably happy to get a few more performances like the ones of late out of him.
Thanks for your concern but I suggest you concentrate opn your own club in the future.
It's HIS blog. He doesn't need you to give him permission what to post about. You're the guest.
If you think the fees were justified then sure I accept your opinion. This article is my opinion that im sure a good proportion of Leeds fans would agree with - we would not as a team want to spend that amount of money on an individual that wouldn't be able to step up. The players Grayson signed that we used to get out of L1 were frees for the most part and did that job and now are being shipped off.
As I said on 606 I accepted your good deals - Tudgay and Camp I mentioned. That is exactly what we'd want as a team (although not particularly those players). Quality players for a value fee.
Where's your source for knowing for certain about Perch? Im sorry I haven't got the in depth and inside information that Forest fans may have. Im not a journalist, I've no inside sources, I'm going on what is available to me to create an illustrative article mainly for Leeds fans to see and make their judgement at whether they'd want us to follow the lead of teams such as yourselves in respect transfer activity.
Also my argument about Davies was the expectancy to bring in players, and often on big money - after the Board had spent so much (unsustainably) in the past couple of seasons, in relation to the rest of the division.
Okay I didn't know about Tyson not being offered one yet but how/why would I? I'm not a Forest fan and this article isn't in a national paper I don't know why you take such offence!
I've said it alot on 606, I'm not concerned for you at all, I'm concerned at Leeds fans wanting such spending, when it guarantees no success in reality although you're doing well now, you're not forced to. And I am saying the best way for Leeds United is exactly how we're doing it just now, patiently, and spending in moderation and not breaking the bank on any one player. And as of now, it's working well for us financially and on the pitch.
Yeh as above, what do you expect? I'm not Henry Winter writing an article about Forests form - I've not spent all week researching it for a national paper column at the weekend. I'm not a Forest fan. Ive used the sources available to me, and produced an article intended for Leeds fans! Its putting our perspective and giving a perspective to Leeds fans who want it all spending wise, when to run a sustainable club its not realistic. And, you really don't need to spend such amounts to succeed, its been proven time and again in this league, and that's what I wanted to convey to first and foremost Leeds fans.
Its better for us to get the most for what is in the main, our money. And personally I really don't want to see us struggle financially ever again.
This article is massively unfair. Earnie and Gunter are our 2 most expensive players. Earnie has paid back his transfer fee many time over. He practically kept us in this league.
Gunter was a bargain. Not going to make headlines like Tarrabt but just as good in his own position. He is an appreciating asset.
Majewski's fee was 1million Euro about £700k. A great bargain who's since been linked with a £4million move to Villa.
Our best player is Mcgugan from the academy.
Moussi 300k, Camp 100k, Tudgay £500k, Wilson £300k Blackstock £600k, Morgan Free, Chambers £200k, Anderson £400k. Cohen £500k. All bargains worth more than we spent. The majority of our squad played in league 1 with us. We pay very low wages.
Our targets were ambitions, we nearly signed Bale until Assou Ekotto picked up an injury, it was all agreed. Shorey was with us for half the season, hardly unrealistic.
Pratley and Whittingham were running out of contract at championship clubs below us in the league at that time. Hardly unrealistic.
Our chairman bank rolls us. Just like many other chairmen. He is choosing to invest his money. Unlike the people who lose out when clubs go into admin and don't pay their debts in full.
Fair comments and I accept there are bargains. But I just cant count earnshaw and gunter as bargains at that price. Earnshaws transfer fee is the entirety of the money teams receive for being in the Championship for a season so it is a good job he kept you up!
Why didn't Shorey sign?
Moussi, Tudgay and Camp are fantastic bargains, exactly what kind of signings I'd like to see us make - a player who comes to be worth far more than you pay very evidently (a la max gradel, snodgrass, becchio, schmeichel)
I singled out the players I chose to because I thought better players are around for far less outlay - which is the way I'd prefer Leeds to do it.
If you pay low wages, why is Moussi for example not being tied down as he is evidently quality, with the team doing so well, and being apparently offered a lower contract along with three others I mentioned?
By unrealistic - I mean unrealistic on Billy Davies behalf after the club outlaying so much, he was expecting too much for the board to bring those players in.
Just because "many other chairmen" bankroll clubs doesn't mean I want Leeds United to be run in such a way, unless the Chairman is an Al Fayed type giving gift loans, which yours isn't as he is charging interest on sizeable loans he lent to the club:
http://www.freeforest.co.uk/forestsdebttodoughty.htm
If you take a look at the content of the site you have posted a link to you will see that it is basically moaning that Doughty puts no money in to the club and that all acquisitions are funded by outgoing transfers. So you can hardly use it to back up your current argument.
In reality Forest have never paid any interest on the loans as the date for the payment of interest is consistently moved.
We also have a very small squad (considerably smaller than Leeds) as the focus seems to be that the chairman is prepared to spend £1.75m to sign a right back in Chris Gunter (who incidentally was initially signed on loan) who would not need to be replaced if we manage to reach the Premier League.
Well the money spent and the losses accrued show it isn't viable. I didn't say Doughty puts nothing in, I said he does - he has done and massively, out of his own pocket - £45M I quoted - a figure from 2008 - but a lot of that is in repayable loans, some is gift loans admittedly but I read those were in single figures (around £7M that he simply "gave" to the club)
I think you have been fairly eloquent in your responses to the posts but I also think you are trying to make Forest fit a profile to make your article work without perhaps (understandably) knowing the full facts.
Earnshaw for example is used as the main argument. Yes he was signed at a high initial expense but his goals to games ratio for us has generally been excellent (close to 1 in 2). He might have been unsuccessful at Derby, but he hardly played and they were clearly a terrible PL side. His record at Championship level (and in the PL for West Brom albeit briefly) was excellent. Finally, players wages are guesswork so i'll have to work from rumours but if Earnie is on 15-20k, well Schmeichel was rumoured to be on 19k at Notts, and I doubt he took a drop to move up two divisions.
All that said, I do agree that bargains are available and Billy Davies should look at them more. I happen to think he got one in Gunter.
One last thing to the guy who wishes us to be thankful about benefitting from the 15 point deduction. Sorry, but no. Having watched our chairman (quite rightly) dismantle a decent squad in order to avoid administration at the same time some clubs used it to shirk their financial responsibililties, I have no sympathy when some consequences are imposed.
Ive heard a lot of cry's for Sean to take a look at his own club before he has a go at Forest ok then, take a look at this. We've outperformed Forest pretty much all season with a squad which has been put together for the less than the money Forest have spent on Earnshaw. 2.65 mill is a joke for a player of that standard in this league, those who think they'd rather pay 2.65 mill for Earnshaw than have Becchio are dreaming! Anyway guys keep reading this blog and raping it with your stupid comments about how this is rubbish and how Sean has no sources (when's he shown you where all his info comes from) cause to be fair, its all hits on his blog and im sure he welcomes the exposure good or bad. Want to turn your attentions to me now??? Go ahead.... Im a Leeds fan too you know!
Cheers "Matt" ...! I've created a follow up for this.
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Well I drank with the Soul Crew and I ate my dinner in ER. (balmcake and chips)
I've watched the gooners enter the South Stand and seen graffitti in the bogs.
Spoken to the children in the JC West Stand.
But can't read this
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Sean, as a life long Forest fan, you have not got much wrong about Forest.
Not having read all the replies, it looks like you are saying. Look at Leeds, you gambled in the late 1990's and wow fell from grace big time.
Be careful NFFC, be very careful
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Sort of yeh, and that I don't want Leeds to do it again, as it aint necessary at this level
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